Hi funhavers! Why does Gyarados typed as flying pokemon, but can't fly, but not dragon but can use dragon moves...? XD
Why Gyarados is not typed a Dragon?
They are afraid of what it will become
Such monster...and yet, it grew out of a simple mediocre carp
There is a Chinese legend about the carp leaping over the Dragon Gate. Maybe part of the inspiration comes from this? I'm not sure.
Z D said:There is a Chinese legend about the carp leaping over the Dragon Gate. Maybe part of the inspiration comes from this? I'm not sure.
Hi, funhaver! Thank you for the hint! I've looked up Japanese folklore
Krizzirk said:Z D said:There is a Chinese legend about the carp leaping over the Dragon Gate. Maybe part of the inspiration comes from this? I'm not sure.
Hi, funhaver! Thank you for the hint! I've looked up Japanese folklore
Hope this helps you ^ ^
gen1 doesn’t have the Dragon type at all
N O said:gen1 doesn’t have the Dragon type at all
But but... if Jiggly can become a Fairy, why not Gyara a Dragon? That's so unfair 😭
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Gyarados's design prototype is probably 鲤鱼旗 ; it makes sense if it has the Flying type.
This legend of the carp leaping the Dragon’s Gate comes from San Qin Ji, a work dating back to the late Eastern Han Dynasty, around 1,800 years ago. The story is set at the real‑life Dragon’s Gate along the Yellow River. The original text of the book no longer exists; the legend has been preserved only via excerpts quoted in later ancient writings. It spread to Japan during the Sui‑Tang period.
The myth stands for beating adversity to turn one’s fate around. Historically, it most often symbolized scholars succeeding in the imperial civil‑service examinations to secure government positions, as well as career progress and upward social mobility. Japan’s carp streamers are a derivative folk custom, not an indigenous myth. Pokémon’s designers took inspiration from this Chinese legend, merged it with later Japanese folk traditions, and came up with the famous evolution chain of Magikarp into Gyarados.
Japan has long valued bloodline‑based hierarchy, with highly rigid social classes that peaked during the Edo period. Even today, Japanese society still shows clear class divisions, and upward mobility across social ranks remains very difficult. Some argue that when designing Gyarados, alongside drawing from the Chinese carp‑leaping‑Dragon’s‑Gate legend and Japanese folk customs, the Pokémon designers also wove in reflections on Japan’s real‑world social‑class struggles.
The myth stands for beating adversity to turn one’s fate around. Historically, it most often symbolized scholars succeeding in the imperial civil‑service examinations to secure government positions, as well as career progress and upward social mobility. Japan’s carp streamers are a derivative folk custom, not an indigenous myth. Pokémon’s designers took inspiration from this Chinese legend, merged it with later Japanese folk traditions, and came up with the famous evolution chain of Magikarp into Gyarados.
Japan has long valued bloodline‑based hierarchy, with highly rigid social classes that peaked during the Edo period. Even today, Japanese society still shows clear class divisions, and upward mobility across social ranks remains very difficult. Some argue that when designing Gyarados, alongside drawing from the Chinese carp‑leaping‑Dragon’s‑Gate legend and Japanese folk customs, the Pokémon designers also wove in reflections on Japan’s real‑world social‑class struggles.
zhxq said:Gyarados's design prototype is probably 鲤鱼旗 ; it makes sense if it has the Flying type.
zhxq said:Gyarados's design prototype is probably 鲤鱼旗 ; it makes sense if it has the Flying type.
Thousands of years ago, this ancient legend already existed in China. The dragon is a mythical, divine‑natured creature. In traditional Chinese thought, a dragon that cannot fly is barely different from a loach. A true dragon is always capable of taking flight.
Japan’s carp streamers, or koinobori, are mainly displayed on Boys’ Day. They carry parents’ wishes for boys to grow up healthy and robust, while also drawing on the carp‑leaping‑Dragon’s‑Gate tale to hope children will strive hard and achieve success. This folk custom is not indigenous to Japan. Instead, it skillfully combines ancient Chinese culture spanning thousands of years with new folk practices that developed during Japan’s Edo period.
N O said:gen1 doesn’t have the Dragon type at all
Yes, it did. The Dragonite evolution line were dragon types in the original gen 1 games.
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